Umnumzana Natalia Bochkareva amahlaya ukuba umgqomo apho igama lakhe livela khona mhlawumbi alizalwanga nantoni na kodwa ngamandla. Ndinezinto ezininzi. Ndiyahlawula i-positive ukusuka elangeni - kuphela kwisithathu. Kukho, kunjalo, ixesha lokukhathala. Kodwa andinakukwazi ukuxinezeleka, kwaye ndihlala ndithembele ebomini. Ngaba unesiqhwenga esikolweni? Igama lam lalinguBhocha. Kwaye ngoku abanye oogxa be-theater ba ndibize oko. Ndiyilungile ngale nto: igama lesidlaliso ixesha elide libonakala liyamthanda. Iintshaba esikolweni Ewe. Kwakukho umfana omnye - uSergei Morozov. Wandibamba phezu kweengubo, iipompons, ukukhupha kwi-hood. Njengoko ndaqonda, ndandifuna ukukhangela umdla ngale ndlela. Kodwa ke ndaza ndenza iJajio ukuba ndiphindezele. Enyanisweni, andizange ndihlale ixesha elide. Ndacinga ukuba kwakunjani kwikarati: umise, ugubungele izandla zakho, ukukhaba, ukugxuma, ukukhahlela, uziphose umxhaphazi wakho. Kwaye ke sanyanzeliswa ukuba siqhube phantsi. Ndineenkwenkwezi enamaqabane am. Sinaye njengamabhanki amabini. Umqeqeshi wabonisa iintlobo ezahlukeneyo, ubuchule, indlela yokuhlala phezulu kwintshaba, ukuphula isandla sakhe ... Kwaye ngoku ndihleli kule nkwenkwe ndacinga: ndiya kulala njani kwiklasi kunye nosutshaba? Nangona kunjalo, ndiyakhumbula ezinye iindlela zokwahlulela. Kwakhona ndinesandla esinzima kumama. Ngoko ndiyakwazi ukuzimela. Nangona kunjalo, ndizama ukungasebenzisi amandla.
Ngaba unayo na ubunzima bakho kubazali bakho?
-Ye, andingathandi i-kindergarten, ndabalekela apho, ndikwazi ukuma kwinkampu yobuvulindlela, apho ndathunyelwa khona ehlobo. Andizange ndiyiqonde yonke ixesha sokuba ndifanele ndenyuke kwenye into yokuba "uPioneer Dawn" ngeesisixhenxe kusasa kwaye ndizenze, xa ndaya eholide kwaye ndifuna ukulala? Ngenxa yoko, andithandi isikolo. Ndandithanda ukufunda, kodwa andifuni ukuvuka ekuseni. Iminyaka elishumi ngokunyamezela ngokunyanisekileyo - malunga noRobinson Crusoe, ukugwazwa - kungakanani na kufuneka ndifunde kwaye ndinyamezele.
-Izinto ongazithandiyo?
"Kubonakala ngathi kwisikolo sethu saseSoviet, ezinye izifundo zafundiswa njengaye, ezingenakuze zenzeke. Ngokomzekelo, ndiyayithiya inkqubo. Uhambo oluya kwiklasi yekhompyutheni lwam lulingana nokutyelela kwidokotela wamazinyo. Oku ke abantwana abasusela kwiminyaka emihlanu behleli kwikhompyutheni kwaye banako ukwenza izinto abantu abaninzi abakwazi ukuzenza. Andizange ndikwazi ukwenza njani ebuntwaneni bam, nangona ndingumLevi kwi-horoscope, ndiqhelekile kwizinto zonke. Kodwa ngokuqhelekileyo ndandingumntwana ongenangqondo. Kwaye ke, ndingenakufuna ukuhlukana nale nto. Kodwa ufuna, awufuni-kwakudingeka ukhuliswe.
- Oku kwenzeka ntoni?
- Kwi-hsle. Iminyaka ukususela nge-9 ndinikezelwa kuzo zonke iintlobo zeekgs. Ndafunda iingoma, zatshiswa, zahlabelela i-chastushki kwaye zaya kwi-studio yemahala. Andizange ndibe nexesha lokugijima ngeenxadi. Ndaphinde ndaphumelela kwisikolo samanqaku. Nangona andinaso ukukhula okufanayo okufunekayo kule shishini. Ewe, kwaye ndaphupha ngenye into.
- Ziyintoni na amaphupha akho?
- Umzekelo, ndifuna ukukhula iinwele ezinde. Umama wayehlala egawula kumagxa. Wamnquma uyise - ewe, kangangokuba wayeneminyaka emihlanu emva koko, iinwele zakhe azizange zikhule. I-Repertoire "I-Tender May" iyakhumbula? Ngaphambili, ndayazi - kodwa ke iingoma ezimhlophe zahlabelela. Ngaphantsi kwabo kwakumnandi ukunqanda. Kwaye kwafika ixesha lokutshintsha, izinto zaqala ukutshintsha. Ukongeza, ndandifuna ukukhula ngokukhawuleza. Ndaqala ukuthanda abafana, bonke bebekhulile, andizange ndiqwalasele oontanga. Ndiyakhumbula xa ndandineminyaka elishumi elinesibhozo, umntakwabo u-Andrew wangena emkhosini. Kwakukho ukukhawuleza, kwaye ngeli phondo ndandiyithanda omnye wabahlobo bakhe ababemdala kunami iminyaka eyisibhozo. Wandichukumisa nam. Kwaye ndandichala kakhulu ukuba akayi kuqonda ubuncinane bam. Wabuza umntakwethu ukuba ndithi sele ndineminyaka elinesibhozo. Enyanisweni, ndakhawuleza ndatyhila xa ndibuzwa apho ndifunda khona. Uxoke ukuba kwisikolo sobugcisa. Emva koko ba ndibuza ukuba sithini. Kwaye ndingazi.
-Awe ungumdlali weqonga, kunjalo, ukususela ebuntwaneni kuphupha ukuba?
- Okokuqala ndifuna ukuba ngumbhali weendaba. Ndade ndazama mna kulo msebenzi, nangona akazange ahlale ixesha elide. Ukuba ndihlala kuyo, ngoku ndiza kudala inkqubo yombhali enikezelwe kwisihloko esithakazelisayo. Ndiyabulela uThixo, ulwimi lwam luye lwanyuswa, kukho iimbono ezininzi entloko yam. Ngoko ke yodwa into - kufuneka ukuba enze umzamo wokuba konke oku, okanye, njengoko bethetha, ukuqinisekisa umtyalomali.
-Izintatheli eziza kuwe zodliwano ndlebe, ziba novelwano?
-Umele uthethe ngokuzisola: zincwadana zincwadana ezincinci. Emva koko, safundiswa: ukuba uya kwintlanganiso kunye neqhawe lezinto zakho, ngoko kuya kuba kuhle ukulungiselela. Yaye isebenza njani nathi? Intombazana ifika, ndithi kuye: "Sine-USG ..." Yaye yena: "Ngaba udlala kwi-Moscow Art Theatre?" Ngaba kunjalo? Emva kwakho konke, kufuneka ufunde into ethile malunga nomnxibelelwano, ekugqibeleni, ukumlethela uhlobo oluthile lokunganyaniseki, ukufumana ulwazi olulodwa. Ewe, kwaye igosa le-interview liyanomdla. Emva koko, bacela imibuzo efanayo. Ngamanye amaxesha ndifuna ukuthetha: yiya kwi-intanethi, thayipha igama lam kwi-injini yokukhangela, kwaye zonke iimpendulo kwimibandela yakho ziya kufundwa. Yaye ungachitheli ixesha lokuthululela kwizinto ezingenanto ukuze ungabi nalutho. Ngako oko, uhlala ulindele umbuzo okhethekileyo kwi-intatheli, eya kukuvumela ukuba uvule ngokungafaniyo kwingxoxo naye. Ngokomzekelo, ndiyathanda ukufilosofi, sithethe ngezihloko ezifanelekileyo, umzekelo, kwilizwe lethu.
"Ngoku siya kwenza oku." Ngaba ngokwenene uyazi umlingisi uEkaterina Vilkovu obuye avela kuNizhni Novgorod?
-Ye, siyazi omnye nomnye. Ndiqhayisa ngokufunda kwiSikolo seNyathny Novgorod Theatre. Kulapho ndafumana isiseko esisisiseko somdlali omncinci, owamnceda gqitha kuMHLT School-Studio. Kwakudinga umsebenzi omningi ngokwabo, akukho namnye owayenokunyamezela aze ahlalutye iinqhekeza. Ndinike umsebenzi - uyapheka. Kwaye, ke, abatsha, abafana abaluhlaza babesele badidekile. Hamba uye ubuze inkosikazi. Kwaye ke kwakungelula kum - ndibe nesikolo emva kwam.
- Ngaba umculi unokuqonda ukuba yonke into iyajika kuye, ukuba ihamba kwaye ikhule ngendlela efanelekileyo?
- Ngokomntu, kunzima kum ukuthetha ngam, ukuba ndiphumelele into ethile. Kancinci, uvakalelwa kukuba amathuba okuba abanzi, kwaye ungazizama kwiiprojekthi ezahlukeneyo. Uhlala ufuna iindima ezahlukileyo. Abadlali abaqhelekileyo banendima ethile. Kodwa wonke umculi ufuna ukudlala indima enkulu, kwaye umonakalo ucinga ngoluhlobo. Kwaye zihlala zihlala zingenakufumana.
-Iyiphi imeko enokuthi ukubonelela kunye nokufunwa kuhambelana?
"Ukuba ufuna ukwazi ukuba baye bandinika indima ebalulekileyo endiyilindeleyo, ke akukho." A nga ni kezelwa. Ndilondoloza amava, zizame. Ngokomzekelo, emva kwendima efanayo noDasha Bukina ukusuka kwi-sitcom "Eyoyobambisana" kwi-TNT, ndaqonda ukuba ndinokudlala indima.
-Wasabela njani xa wanikelwa ukuba udlale uDasha oneminyaka engamashumi amane ubudala?
- Ndandineminyaka engama-25 ubudala, kwaye iingcamango zam malunga nomfazi oneminyaka engamashumi amane zazingekho ngokwembali. Ewe, ndawajonga aba bafazi kwaye ndaqonda ukuba le minyaka engamashumi amane yinto ebaluleke kakhulu. Kukho ixesha elibalulekileyo kwiimeko zobomi bomfazi. Eyokuqala kwiminyaka emithathu, ke ukususela kwi-12 ukuya kwe-15, emva kwe-18. Emva kwe-30, 40. Emva koko - ngubani. Ndiye ngamashumi amathathu, kwaye ndineyona nto ibalulekileyo. Ndiyifumene iziphumo: Yintoni endiyenayo ngeli xesha, yintoni ekwazi ukuyenza. Nangona kunjalo kukho ukuvakalelwa kukuba inkulu kunye nenxalenye ebhetele yobomi iphambili kwaye ayikho ixesha elide lokutshintsha nantoni na ukuyilungisa ngoku.
Kwiminyaka engamashumi amane imeko iyanzima. Emva koko, njengoko ndakuqonda, into ephambili kukufumana ukuzinza kwangaphakathi. Kuba ibhinqa, oku kubaluleke kakhulu. Oku kunika ukuzithemba nokuthula, okuphi na umntu onokuphila kakuhle. Kufuneka ukuba uzive ukuba uyenze. Kuye kwenzeka ukuba abaninzi abafazi ngelo xesha banamacala okukhalaza ngenxa yeengxaki zemihla ngemihla. Andizange ndiphumelele oko ndandifuna kulo msebenzi, ayizange ihlakulele ebomini bam, ndenze into ethile ngenxa yentsapho nabantwana - umthwalo wecala unokuba nzima kakhulu. Ngendlela umntu ekhula ngayo, umntu unokuqonda ukuba uluphi uhlobo lobomi aphile ngalo. Uyakwazi ukuphinda uhlawule ngaphakathi kwiminyaka engamashumi amane, ukhethe isimo esifanelekileyo - uza kuguga ngokuhle. UDasha Bukina uyandithanda kuba ulungile emashumi mane. Ngaphezu koko, ukuba uhlala kunye nokunqoba kwangaphambili. Emva kokuba "u-Miss Deryabino", akazange aphumelele nantoni na ebomini, kodwa watshata noGena waza wazala abantwana ababini. Kodwa wagcina into ebaluleke kakhulu - iimeko ezilungileyo. Akacaphukisi nabani na kwaye ngenxa yokuzihlaziya kwakhe amava zonke iintlobo zeengxaki. Yiyiphi, ngokuqinisekileyo, ebonakalisa ukubonakala kwayo: uqaqambile kwaye uyonwabile ukuba, nangona ikhukula lehlabathi liqala, uya kubheka okulungileyo kuyo.
Ngaba uziva uvakalelwa kunye nemibono ye heroine yakho?
- Mhlawumbi, kubantu abavela ngaphandle baziyo, into endiyiyo ebomini, iyayixabisa. Kukho iimeko xa ndifanele ndihlaziye "sebenzisa" uDasha. Umzekelo, ekunxibelelaneni neepopu zendlela. Kodwa mna uDasha naye wandinika iziganeko zokuziphatha kwakhe. Ngokubanzi, ukutsho ngokuqinisekileyo apho ndilapha, kwaye apho uDasha Bukina - akulula khona. Imigudu emikhulu kwiQela lokuQala lancede ukunciphisa umzimba. Kodwa kwakukho ukulahlekelwa isisindo kwiimbasa. Kulapha, ehleli kwizikrini, kubonakala ukuba lo mdlalo, umdlalo, kwaye xa uphakathi kwenkqubo, xa abaphikisana neUkraine, eUnited States, eChina, uvusela iimvakalelo zelizwe, kwaye uqala ukuvuyela umhlaba waseRussia. Ndiza kugubha la mabhodi, ndibhukude, ndenze nantoni na, ukuze ndiphumelele. Ngosuku lokuqala ndaphula zonke izipikili zam, zonke zaphazamiseka kwaye zazingakhange ziqaphele ukuba zonke zinayo. Kodwa ngaphakathi kwakukho ikratshi, loo myalelo nokuba yincinci, kodwa inkolelo iye yazisa. Ngenxa yoko, ndiye ndawa amahlanu kilogram. Ngoku, ukuba ndichithe iikhalori, ndijikeleza njenge-squirrel kwisondo.
- Yintoni efana nayo: ukuba neyakho intsapho, kwaye uchithe ixesha elininzi kunye nomnye umntu, i-serial?
- Kwaye ngokwenene: Ndichitha ixesha elininzi kunye nosapho lwaseBukin kunokuba nditsho nomyeni wam nabantwana. Kuhle ukuba baqonda oku. Zivame ukuza ukudubula - njengendlu ephosa esiya kuyo. Hlala phantsi, siza kuba nekomityi yeeyi, kwaye baya kwi shishini labo, kwaye mna-ukuba ndisebenze.
- Ngaba wabiza indlu kaNikolay Gena, oko kukuthi, ngegama lomyeni wakho weTV?
"Ndiyabonga uNowa." Ndiya kubiza iGenya Kolya, kunokuba ngandlela-thile. Ngaphandle koko, uGene nomyeni wam bachasene. Enye kunye, enye inye. Nangona kunjalo, ubukho bamadoda amabini-igosa kunye ne-serial - ayincedi ukuba ndiqonde kangcono amadoda.
- Ndixelele, kutheni unabantwana lonke ixesha lokuzalwa kwasebusika?
- Kubonakala ukuba ziba izipho zonyaka omtsha.
-Abantwana bakho bayazi ukuba umama wabo wenza ntoni?
-Icinga ukuba basesebenza ekuqwalaseleni ukuba umsebenzi we-actress. Ndinika kubo uthando lomdlalo. Sinemidlalo yesikhwama sepopu eduze kwendlu, siya khona-bayayithanda. U-Ivan wabuye wamkela uthando lwam lokudweba. Kwaye uyazizonda iipencilisi kunye neepensele eziziva zivela ebuntwaneni, njengoko ndibazondayo. Ndiyayithanda imibala. Ngoko ngokuqhelekileyo uthabatha.
Ngaba ungathanda ukuba nentombi efana noSveta Bukina?
U-Masha uneminyaka emibili kuphela ubudala, kodwa uSvetka usele wayedlulele into ethile-ubuncinci kwizinga leengqondo ngokuqinisekileyo.
Ngaba unayo nayiphi na ingcamango yokuba, ngelixa ucofa kwi-sitcom, ulahlekelwa njani ukuba abantwana bakho bakhule?
- Eli xesha lithuba. Xa uMas noVanya bebancinci, bengumhlengikazi, bengenakukhuseleka, ndandinxungubele kakhulu ngale nto - unkoko lwamama aluzange landikhathaze. Kwaye emva nje kokuba ndibe nomzuzu wamahhala, ndaya ekhaya ukuze ndichithe ixesha elifutshane kunye nabo, kwaye kwakhona ndibuyele ekuqhutshweni kochungechunge oluthi "Hlala kunye." Ngoku ndiye ndihlaziye. Okokuqala, abantwana baye bakhula, kwaye okwesibini, baqala ukuqonda ukuba umama kufuneka ahambe emsebenzini, athathe imali. I-Vanya encinci iya kwi-kindergarten-oku kuluhlobo lomsebenzi wakhe. Nangona kunjalo, akafumani nantoni na, kodwa uhlawula umatshini. Kwaye ngakumbi: ngeveki ndiyichitha olunye usuku, endichithayo ngokupheleleyo nabantwana. Ukuba le veki ayisebenzanga, ngeveki ezayo iza kuba ezimbini.
Ngaba uyavuma ukuba kunamathuba amaninzi kwiphondo laseRashiya? Nangona phakathi koogxa bakho kukho nabo banokukhetha ukuba yinkwenkwezi yecandelo lezemidlalo yendawo, kunokuba baye kwiindawo ezicacileyo eMoscow.
-Iye, kodwa ukuba uthelekisa u-Nizhny Novgorod kunye noMoscow, ngoko kwintsimi enkulu yomsebenzi kusekubanzi. Cinga, umzekelo, ukuba kukho ii -atersaters amakhulu ezingama-200 eMoscow, kwaye ezisixhenxe ezisezantsi. Nangona mhlawumbi ngoku kukho ezintsha. Umgangatho wokuhlala eMoscow ungumyalelo wokuphakama ophezulu. Kodwa ndimele ndithethe.