Ngenxa yoko, uRenata Litvinova wayejwayele ukubonakalisa ubuntu bakhe. Ukuhlala kwiskrini nguloo ntokazikazi-ongukazikazi ongekho kweli hlabathi, wamangaliswa nakwabaphathi be-cinema ngobunzulu bezimpawu zabo zoshishino.
U-Renata, sele ususebenze njengomvelisi ngaphezu kwesinye, ngokusobala, kuwe sizathu sokuba uzive "izinto eziphathekayo", kuba kufuneka ujongane neengxaki zemali?
Ndihlala ndithanda ukusebenza, ngaphandle kwendima ejongene nobudlelwane bemali. Imfazwe yezinto ezingapheliyo, iimfazwe zezemali, ezingekho iintlawulo, amatyala ... kum, oku kuyona nto ibuhlungu kakhulu. Yaye yonke into - injabulo kuphela. Indlela yokuvelisa ayifanele ngokupheleleyo kum, kodwa ukuba ithunyelwe kuwe, kufuneka uthabathe kule mishini, ngaphandle koko ifilimu ayiyi kusuka kwindawo efile. Ukuba ngumlimi kunzima. Kodwa ndifungela ukuba ndiya kuba yimifanekiso yokudubula apho abantu bangayi kushiya khona. Ngenjongo enesidima, unako, phakathi kwezinye izinto, ukwenza imali enhle. Oku akunakuba ngumsebenzi wam oyintloko. Kufuneka kubekho iinjongo eziphezulu. Ayikho impahla. Imali luvavanyo olukhulu. Ngokukodwa kwabo benza i-fortune ngokungalindelekanga kwaye banquma ukuba yonke into iyathengiswa. Akunjalo wonke umntu udlula lo vavanyo. Ewe, bahluke ebomini. Kubonakala kum ukuba sonke silapha kulingo.
Ngendlela, uqeqesho lomlawuli nomvelisi luninzi kunowesifazane. Uthandana noYerata Litvinova owaziwayo kwaye ongaqhelekanga kufuneka atshintshe into ephathelele kule nto?
Ukulungisa lonke ixesha. Ngaphandle kokuphela, kufuneka senze izinto eziyekezelayo, zingenakukhuselwa kwimibutho yabantu. Ubunzima bunemida. Iphelela ekubi. Kwaye kukho okubi, kubonakala kum, akunakunceda ngokupheleleyo. Kunenzuzo yokuba nomusa. Andiyiqondi into enokuyenza inkohlakalo. Ndifuna nje. Ngoku unokwazi ukukhusela ilungelo lakho kwizinto eziziqambileyo, kodwa xa zingaziwa, njani?
Ndandidla ngokuba ngumntu ocacileyo ngakumbi. Kwaye ke, ngendlela, akazange akhuse. Kwaye kwakunjengombane kwiglasi. Ungigxeka, ungagxeki, kodwa ulungiso lwam aluyi kutshintsha. Yayizithunywa zezulu ezandigcina. Bandinika umzimba ongaqhelekanga. Ngenxa yokuba abantu ngamanye amaxesha, ngamanye amaxesha bawaphula. Bayikhulula kuzo zonke izikolo, kwaye bonke bathetha ngelizwi elifanayo, akukho nto inomdla kuzo. Oko bayenzayo nabo-andiyazi, kodwa ezinye iimbophu ziphuma. Kwaye umntu ongenakukwazi ukubulawa. Nangona mhlawumbi bekungekho? Emva koko akusilo isihawu.
Uneminyaka engama-18 kuni, uRenata, mhlawumbi unokubeka uxinzelelo ...
Ikoyikeka. Lihle kakhulu. Ndahlala ndigxeka. Bathi ababhali ngesiRashiya ukuze kungenziwa ngale ndlela. Ndazikhusela njengezilwanyana. NdineNjingalwazi uKira Konstantinovna Paramonova, wawela yonke into kum. Wonke amaphepha ayebomvu. Ndaya endlwini yakhe, kwaye iiyure ezintathu sahlalutya isigwebo ngasinye. Ndazibiza emoyeni waza ndathi ke kunokwenzeka. Emva koko waphendula wathi: "Xa uthetha, undiqinisekisile." Ukuba ndizitshintshe ngokwam, bekungekho nto. Bekungayi kuba. Awukwazi ukuzithengela.
ULatata Litvinova owaziwayo kunye ongathandabuzekiyo wayengcono okanye, ngokuchaseneyo, wayengaphelelekanga?
Ngokuqinisekileyo kulungile! Wayemncinci, eneenwele ezinde, enekhanda elimhlophe elimhlophe, elinobuthathaka kunye nobuthathaka. Wayenhle kakhulu kunam namhlanje.
Kodwa xa uneminyaka yobudala, wena, uRenata, mhlawumbi ufumene impawu yokugquma.
O, hayi. Andinayo impawu eziphambili. Ndiyabulela ngokunyanisekileyo kubaxhasi bam basezulwini kwaye ndiqinisekile ngokupheleleyo ukuba ubomi bam bubekwe bucala ukusuka phezulu. Ndatshutshiswa kwiVGIK. Kukho kwakudingeka ukuba sisebenzisane ne-faculty ye-faculty, kwaye kungekhona nje ukuba andizange ndisebenzisane, andizange ndibonisane nabalawuli. Ubhala isicatshulwa, uye kwesinye i-faculty, kwaye bayifaka. Andizange ndibe nesicatshulwa esisodwa, ifilimu, isiqingatha sefilimu. Unomdla opheleleyo. Into ephambili - ndibadelele! Babonakala ngathi bendihluke ngandlela-thile. Nangona wafunda kunye nabafana abahlekisayo. Ngexesha elifanayo, uVanya Okhlobystin wafunda-uphelele ngokupheleleyo! Ndiyakhumbula xa wangena emkhosini, wanikela inqwaba yezibongo ezinikezelwe kum. Vanya waba ngummangaliso. Emva koko wafunda uMqabane uBashirov, Fedechka Bondarchuk, uRomas Kachanov, umlawuli we "DMB", uLesha Samoryadov.
Kufuneka ukuba bawa thandane nawe , odumile kunye noYanata Litvinov.
Hayi ... Hayi, ziphi izihlobo, okuqinisekileyo. ULesha Samoryadov wayemangalisa kakhulu, enobubele. Emva kokuba eze kumtyelela, wathenga amatye. Owu, bekuphela kuphela kuye okwenzekayo. Wawaphonsa epanini, wahlala, ulinde. Kwaye ngokungaqhelekanga-abayi kunyuka. Sasithatha iindwangu enye kwi-spoon, kwaye yayinzima kakhulu-yatshitshiswa kwaye yaxutywa. Siphakamise, kwaye kwacaca ukuba yonke i-pelmeni yayifakwe ngeebhola zensimbi. Ndibuza: "Uyithengephi na le nto?" Wandiphendula ngelithi: "Ndiza kwaye ndicinga, kutheni bomelele kangaka?" Lezi bhola zizonke iinkundla zaseMoscow zihlaselwa ngexesha elinye. Omnye uthathe wathengisa uLesha onjalo. Ngamafutshane, asizange sidle i-pelmeni.
Kwikhosi, uninzi lwawe, oludumile nolunqabileyo uRenata Litvinov luyaluxabisa?
Akukho mntu wamxabisa nabani na. Kwaye ngoku, mhlawumbi, ndimele ndikhalaze, ndithi akukho namnye undondisayo, i-bastards. Ngubani othetha naye-uyakukuxabisa. Yaye ngubani ongathethiyo, uthi: "Fi, yintoni isilumko uRenata!" Kodwa mna andinakukwazi ukuthetha nabantu abaninzi, andinayo ifowuni yangaphakathi. Unxibelelana ngokuchanekileyo nangokuchanekileyo: ubuhlobo bakho noZemfira bube bukhuthazayo. Kubonakala sengathi ufumene umntu osondeleyo?
Kule meko, ndifumene umhlobo onokuthenjwa. Ndicinga ukuba uZemfira ungumlobi omkhulu, kwaye ndimthanda kakhulu. Xa ndibethabisa "uthikazikazi", wasithandabuza ngokupheleleyo ingoma yakhe kwaye, ngaphezu koko, wandizisa ku-Igor Vdovin, obhala i-soundtrack yemali ethile enemiqathango. Oku baphinda baqinisekisa ukuba iibongozi ezinkulu ngabantu abayizinto eziphathekayo kwaye abayi-money-grubbers. Kwaye kwifilimu ethi "I-Green Theatre eTyemfira", senze imali yethu. Into ephambili kukuba inemvakalelo. Sekunjalo, liyixwebhu elibamba umntu obalaseleyo ngexesha elithile. Kwaye ndiqinisekile: UZemfira ngumntu obalaseleyo. Unomsoco. Uncedo kubantu abatsha. Ndandifumene nesifundo esikolweni kunye ne-conservatory, kwaye ndiyayiqonda umculo. Mhlawumbi bhetele kunabenzi abathile. Ukusuka kuZemfira uqokelela kakhulu, uhlawula. Emva koko unomntu ohloniphekileyo.
Akumangalisi ukuba abantu abaqhelekileyo kwisangqa sakho abawa - bathanda njenge ...
Ewe, ndisebenza kuphela kunye neengcali. UKira Muratova, uZemfira, ofanayo uLesha Balabanov. Ababona nje abanetalente - banesibindi sokuhlala. Kwaye ukukhululeka ngenye yeempawu zobungcali. Ndicinga ukuba phantse zonke iil biographies ezinkulu zenziwa naphezu kwayo yonke into - rhoqo nje ngeyodwa. Uyakwazi ukuphuma uThixo uyazi apho, ukuba neentsilelo ezininzi, unokuba ngumntu ongenalwazi ngesiphoso sokuthetha, wonk 'ubani uya kuthi ungumprofneprigoden, kwaye uya kuba ngowona mkhulu. Mhlawumbi wena kunye noZemfira kunye nento egazini, phakathi kwezinye izinto, ithandwa? Ngaba unayo igazi leTatar kuyihlo, naye? Ewe, ndiyingxenye yeTartar. Kulo mgca unesifo esinzima kakhulu - umthi wonke. Sineenkosana kunye nososayensi apho. Loo mvelaphi. Uthi amabhayisikobho akulungele ukuzincama amaninzi. Ufumene phi uthando kuye? Wena ngokwakho uza kufunda i-movie, kwaye uya kuqonda ukuba luthando luvela phi. Ayikwazi ukucaciswa, kufana nesifo. I-Cinema ayiyinyaniso, ingaphezu kweyona nyaniso.
ICinema yinyaniso ye sibini .
Ukuba ubuza: "Kutheni u-Renata Litvinova onqabileyo kwaye engathandabuzekiyo uyamthanda lo mntu?" Akunalo iiponji ezipheleleyo.
Andikwazi ukuthetha apha ndiphethwe yincwadi enye okanye ifilimu. Le sikhalala esivela kum andiyi kulinda. Kwakhona yintoni na, kwimeko apho kuyimfuneko ukuluhlu uluhlu? Kubonakala kungamangalisa xa incwadi ithinta wena. Unjani uhlobo lomntu - njengotshani? Njengoko u-podnesh, ngoko ulala phantsi. Khumbula, kuMarx - "Ukumisela ukuqonda"? Kodwa yena, okwangoku, wayengalunganga. Olu lwazi luchaza ukuba.
Ngokwe-intanethi eyaziwayo kunye noYanata Litvinova ogqithisileyo, kucacile ukuba uphatha abadlali ngokupholisa.
Ndihlala ndithi abadlali abangekho abantu.
URenata, kwaye ngubani owona oyingcwele?
Abadlali - abangaphezu kwabantu ... okanye ngaphantsi. Kufana nehlabathi elifanayo. Andiyazi ngehlabathi labo, kwaye, eneneni, andinomdla kubo. Kukho umphumo, kwaye uvela phezulu. Ndithe ndandingafuni ukwenza. Xa wayefundela iVGIK, wayehlala enqaba ukunikezelwa. Kwaye wenza njalo.
Kwaye ngoku udlala umdlali.
Uthandwa no-Renort Litvinova onqabileyo kwaye ongathandabuzekiyo akayena umdlali. Kuphela nje ukuba uRenata ucinga ukuba ngamanye amaxesha uhambelana nombhalo.
Andiziqondi njengomdlali wokudlala. Ndingumntu ongafanelekanga emsebenzini, kuba ndiyingozi emsebenzini. Ngoko ke, andinakudubula kakhulu. Kungekudala okanye ekuhambeni kwexesha ndiya kubuyela kwiincwadi. Xa udiniwe ukwenziwa kunye nokuqondisa. Naluphi na ukubonakala okubonakalayo okungafanekiyo kufana nokuhambelana noko, kwiindawo ezininzi ku-PR, ukuthengisa. Ngaba unelisekile ngomfanekiso osisiseko sakho?
Into kukuba ukuba ufuna ukutshintsha lo mfanekiso ngandlela-thile, unokwenza enye into kwi-cinema. Kodwa kubonakala ngathi, ndayikwenzile. Ngenxa yoko, ngokuqinisekileyo, ndigxeka kakhulu, kodwa ndithandwa. Ngokumalunga neentatheli, babhala malunga nabo, ndiyisisisulu. Xa unika udliwano-ndlebe, kwaye emva koko ufunda, uyaqonda ukuba lo ngumntu ohluke ngokupheleleyo.
Renata, awuzange uqaphele ukuba ngamanye amaxesha ungayethusa abantu ngokungazi kakuhle kwabo?
Ndicinga ukuba ndiyatshitshisa abantu ngamanye amaxesha. Akunjalo wonke umntu, kunjalo, kodwa abaninzi bayesaba. Ewe, makabe besoyika ukuba ngaba zizithambo. Kubonakala ukuba kukho abantu abambalwa bokwenene abayikwesaba, kuba usoloko uthi u-matriarchy uzayo.
Uphantse wafika. Akukho nto abayithethayo yokuba iklasi yendoda izimisele ngumfazi osondele kuye. Khawubone ukuba ngabani abafazi abalungileyo ngoku, kwaye bangaphi amadoda onokuthetha into enjalo? Into ephela: bazikhethele zona ezininzi iimpawu zentombi. Bahluke ngokucacileyo kwaye ndingathanda ukuyiqonda. Ngamanye amaxesha, bavutha umsindo wabo. Indoda ayikwazi ukunikela, ungaphuthelwa kwindlela, nangona ibhinqa elinomntwana. Ngandlela-thile ndibetha enye into yokuba akazange ndiphosakele ekugqibeleni.
Noko ke, uRenata, kwiifilimu zakho uvela ukuba uphatha abantu ngendlela enesihawu. Ngubani ke ongazisoli?
Ndiyaxolisa kubafazi kunye neekati, izinja, kunye namadoda. Kuloo mgaqo mgaqo-siseko wobudlelwane nabantu - inceba.
Ngoko, ngaba "imbono kunye neentsilelo" zisasebenza? Ewe, ndiqinisekile ukuba oku kuphumelela kwam. Ngoku ndijonge abantu ngokubhekiselele ekuhlaleni. Kungekudala ndaya ekhonsathini, ndahlala emgqeni wokuqala, abanye abadansi beza kwinqanaba, kwaye ndade ndiba nesihawu esikhulu kubo. Ndacinga ukuba le ntombazana yayiqwengile i-pantyhose, kwaye yawabeka ngokucophelela ngokucokisekileyo. Andizi, nje ukuva kabuhlungu ...
Oku mhlawumbi akunakumnandi kubantu. Kodwa andiyivakalisi kubo. Xa ndisebenza, ndifuna kakhulu. Olu luhlobo oluthile lwam luphulo. Yaye ngubani othanda ukusebenza, undixelele? Ndiyothuka ngethuba ngamanye amaxesha, ukuba ngokumalunga nemvelaphi yabanye ndibukeka njengento ehamba phambili. Kodwa ebomini kufuneka kubekho indawo engabonakaliyo kuphela, kodwa nayo iphumle.
Renata, ingabe unendawo egcinwe kuyo apho uziva uhleli kwaye ukhululekile?
Uyazi, kungekudala ndiziva ndikhululekile kuzo zonke iindawo, ngaphandle kweMoscow. Lapha sele sele uphendulelwa-uphendulela ngokuphindwe kabini. Zonke izakhiwo ezindala ziye zachithwa kwaye ngoku esi sakhiwo esitsha saseTurkey sineefestile eziluhlaza. Ndiyayithiya! Nangona wazalwa esibhedlele kwiArbat, ngokubhekiselele kwi-cinema ethi "Art", yaye sasihlala esitratweni uGilyarovsky. Ezi ndawo zintsapho yam ukususela ebuntwaneni. Ndiyabona ukuba lo mzi ushintsha njani. Kwaye ndiyabona ukuba akusiyo yonke into eyenze ibe ngcono. Kwaye ndiyamthanda iMoscow. Renata, unentombi ekhulayo.
Renata, yintoni eguqukile kuwe ngokubonakala kwayo?
Xa kufika u-Ulyana, ndatshintsha kakhulu, ndahluke. Ndinentsingiselo ephezulu yokuba kwakungekho ngaphambili. Luthando. Kwakungekho nto enamandla ngakumbi kunobomi bam kunokuba ndithande umntwana. Intombi yam iyamangalisa - inomdla kuyo yonke into, kwaye izama ukuyikopisha ngenye indlela. Sekunikwe ingxelo yokuba, njengonina, uya kuba ngumdlali okanye umculi. Ngamanye amaxesha ndixelelwa ukuba intombi yam inegama elingaqhelekanga njengam. Le yintsapho yethu. Igama likanina kwakunguFaina, igama lomama nguAlice. Igama lento ethile. Njengomntwana, andithandanga igama lam, akafuni ukuyibiza xa umntu ebuza. Ndacinga, kutheni ndikhona igama elinjalo lisiyatha? Kukho konke okuqhelekileyo: Olya, Lena, Natasha. Kwaye ngoku ndimthanda.
Eyaziwayo kwaye engabonakaliyo uRenata Litvinova, indlela yakho yokuziphatha iye yaba yigama. Ndicinga ukuba oku akusiyo kuphela into eyonwabisayo, kodwa iyanomsindo?
Ndisoloko ndityholwa ngokungaqhelekanga ... I-Boring. Ukuba ngumntu ongcono kunobuncwane. Ndiyaziyeka ukuba ubuntu bam bunokuba buhlungu, buhlungu. Inxalenye yale nto sele isecaleni kwam. Wesibini uRenata. Okwesithathu. Kodwa abafazi abanjalo, abangathandekiyo, bephula, abangaqhelekanga, kwenzeka njalo! Awuzange udibane nabo? Kubo, lo mkhuba uyinto evamile kwaye yendalo. Makukukhathaze okunye okanye cha, kodwa ndiyena nje, kungekhona enye. Musa ukuzenza, ndingabonakali nantoni na. Ndinguye! Ngaba kunzima kakhulu ukukholelwa oku? Mna, njengombukeli, ngaba nomdla kumntu ngamnye. Mhlawumbi unomdla, ngokude nje ngokuba kunjalo. Ngaphandle kokungathandabuzeki. Kwaye unomdla kwinto yokuba uvalelwa ngenxa yokuphuhliswa, kwaye oku kuluhlu.
Ndihlala ndithi abantu banamathele kakhulu ekuhlahleni. Ngoko ke, kufuneka uqeqeshe ixesha lonke kwaye uhlale uhle. Ngenxa yokuba umntu, ulahlekelwa amandla, uphelile, kubonakala ngathi kungcono ukulala phantsi kwesofa ngokuhlwa, ukujonga kwi-TV okanye ukubeka iintaba zokutya nokusela phambi kwakhe. Yithatha uhlobo oluthile lomswakama omnyama, akafuni nto. Kufuneka uhlale unqabile kwaye ungalandeli. I-recipe enhle, kodwa abaninzi banokutshatyalaliswa, baze bathabatheke. Abulali. Ukubandezeleka kakhulu kunondla umphefumlo kwaye banokutya okusanhlamvu. Ndiyakuthanda ukuhlupheka ngezinye iixesha. Ngokukhawuleza uvakalelwa kukuba usaphila kwaye unentliziyo. Ngoko ubomi, naphezu kwayo yonke into, into enhle. Simele sisebenze ngokuzikhandla. Mamela i-intuition. Ngenxa yokuba iingelosi zizama ukusithumela.
Renata, uvavanya njani imizamo yabo emzabalazweni ongunaphakade phakathi kokulungileyo nokubi?
Ndicinga ukuba abantu abalungileyo baninzi. Kuphela kumntu, kubonakala kum, akukho mhlophe emhlophe kunye namnyama amnyama, kodwa kunye nakwizinto ezibonakalayo, ezixhomekeke kwiimeko, zikhonza enye okanye enye. Zininzi kwezi meko zinzima kakhulu, kwaye zivame ukuba zikhethe ukukhetha okuthile ...
Ewe, abaninzi abantu baphila ubomi obunzima. Kwaye awukwazi ukufuna nayiphi na imisebenzi yokomoya kubo. Ngumsebenzi omningi. Umntu womntu ngamnye. Khawucinge ngendlela abahlala bengenamakhaya. Kodwa abantu abaqinileyo benza iimvavanyo ngakumbi kunzima kwaye, ngokukratshi, benovuyo. Abuthathaka baba mabi, kwaye oku kubatshabalalisa. Uvelwano, uvelwano lomelele njengothando. Sonke sisoloko singakhuselekanga, sisengozini, siswelekile. Wonke umntu uyamthanda umama, nangakumbi angakhuselekanga othandweni lwakhe. Konke kufuneka kuxolelwe. Ndifuna ukuba kwicala lehlabathi. Nangona kunjalo, ehlabathini kukho ukuphindaphinda kokubi, kodwa ... ndiza kulwa. Kwimi, into enhle, ngaphezu kwayo yonke, idibaniswe namandla okukhanya kunye noThixo. Ndizama ukuba ngumqhubi waloo mandla.