Kukho uhlobo olunqabileyo lwabantu abadla ngokuba yigama elifake imfashini "abagqibeleleyo" - balwela ukugqwesa kuyo yonke into kunye noko benza konke abakwenzayo "ngokugqibeleleyo", abakwazi ukwenza okunye.
UMarbara Mogilevskaya nje "kubangqina": uye wahlala ebonisa ubungqina bakhe obuphezulu njengowomdlali weqonga kunye ne-cinema kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo wabonisa amandla akhe okubhala. Uyathandwa kwaye unqulwa ngumkhosi omkhulu wabalandeli, eyona nto ibonakalayo kwi-intanethi ihlaziywa rhoqo kwi-intanethi engabonakaliyo.
Nangona iimeko zeenkwenkwezi zakhe, le ntokazi enhle kakhulu, enhle kunye nekhono elincinci lisesimweni sokuzihlaziya rhoqo-ufunda ezininzi kwaye unomdla kuninzi.
UMarina ungumntu onobuqili kwaye unobungqina obunzulu, kunye nomntu onqulo lokwenene, uyazi kakuhle kwaye ufumene naluphi na ubuxoki nobutyebi. Unenkxalabo malunga neenkqubo ezingekho phantsi kwempilo ezenzekayo kuluntu. Wavuma ukuthetha ngabanye babo ngombhalisi we-portal "Incwadi Yama-Orthodox yaseRashiya".
- Marina, sibulela kakhulu ngokuthatha ixesha lokuhlangana ngexesha lakho elixakekile. Okokuqala, masingayi kubuza umbuzo wokuqala, usebenza ntoni ngoku? Usebenza phi kwaye udlala ngantoni na?
- Ngeli xesha ndingasebenzi kwiifilimu, kungekude ndide ndigqibe ukudubula okukhulu kwaye ngoku ndinomsebenzi wezobugcisa. Ngesinye ixesha ndazenza ezininzi zokudubula ngokungabi nandipha umdla kum. Oku kwakungenxa yeemeko ezininzi, kubandakanywa izinto eziphathekayo, kwakudingeka ndikhethe okulungileyo kwento endiyinikiweyo, kodwa kungekhona into endifuna ukuyidlala. Ngoku ndinalo ixesha lokuba ndikwazi ukudlala into endiyithandayo. Andizange ndamkele naziphi na iziphakamiso ezithandekayo ezivela kubalawuli befilimu okwamanje. Ndilixesha lokulindela, kuba andisuswanga kwiinyanga ezingaphezu kweesithandathu kwaye ndibe ndothuka kakhulu ngale nxalenye yomsebenzi wam. Kodwa kwi-theatre ndiyimfuneko kwaye ndidlala oko ndiyifunayo. Ngoku ndidlala indima ephambili kwimimiselo emine yokuzonwabisa. Omnye wabo, intsebenzo "Iimvumi", ifanelekile ukungeniswa kwincwadi yokurekhoda - iqhubekile iminyaka engama-7, yinto ekhethekileyo: njengommiselo, iinkampani azihlali ixesha elide. Kodwa mhlawumbi kuba ekusebenzeni kwethu kwakukho inkampani enomdlalo we-actor onokuyiphupha kuphela, okanye ngenxa yokuba yinto enhle kakhulu, kodwa ndiyidlala iminyaka emininzi, kwaye ndiyayithanda.
Umsebenzi wesibini ubizwa ngokuthi "iVendetta - Babette" - lo ngumdlalo wobude bommandla, obonisa imodeli yobudlelwane babantu kumzekelo weendawo ezikude zaseRussia. Ndandisoloko ndihlala ndifuna ukudlala umfazi omibalabala, kwaye ndavuma ngokuvakalayo ukuthatha inxaxheba kulo msebenzi. Ukubukeka, akunakukwazi ukundiqonda kum. Umama, ekhangela le ntsebenzo, emva kokupheliswa kwayo emva kweemifanekiso kwaye undixelele: "Ndiyayiqonda yonke into, kwaye wena phi?"
Umdlalo wesithathu "I-Lady kunye ne-Admiral" eyenziwa nguLeonid Nikolayevich Kulagin yayisipho kum. Lo ngumdlalo weNgesi obalaseleyo, uxelela ngomlando wothando olukhulu. Ngethuba lethu, kwakukho umngcipheko othile wokuyithatha kwisiteji, kuba ubuninzi bezo nkampani ezikhoyo ziye zahlutha kwaye zaphazamisa elo gama. Ngelishwa, thina ngokwethu sijwayele umbukeli ukuba inkampani yinto ethile, ibonwabisayo kunye nebali eliqhelekileyo elibandakanya iinkwenkwezi. Ngoko ke, sinqumle ukubeka intlungu ebalulekileyo ngothando oluhle kwaye oluhle, sesaba kakhulu ukuba ababukeli abayilungele loo nto kwaye abayi kuqonda. Ndivuyiswa kakhulu kukuba iingxaki zethu zazingenanto. Sazibonisa le ntsebenzo kwizixeko ezininzi kulo lonke elaseRashiya, kwaye ndiyabona indlela umbukeli eyamkela ngayo. Kuvuyisa gqitha ukuba ndibone abantu abachukumisayo kunye nabachukumisayo ngokucokisekileyo ukuba baqonda kakuhle kwaye bazive bezinto eziphathekayo.
Ukusebenza kweyesine, esiyikhuphele nje nje nje, kuthiwa yi "My Big Zebra". Lo ngumdlalo ovela ebomini boFrentshi, uxela ibali elihle malunga nokulula, uthando oluhle, kodwa luba nefilosofi yayo.
- Omnye umgxeki wabhala ngomdlalo wakho kumdlalo "Umama kunye ne-Admiral": "U-Mogilev udlala ukuze i-ambulensi imele ihlale ecaleni kwayo." Usebenza ukugqoka kunye nokukrazula kwinqanaba, ukutyelela kunye neenkampani kulo lonke ilizwe - le ndlela yokuphila yenza unelisekile?
- Naphezu kwazo zonke iingxaki ezingentla apha, ndivuyiswa kwaye ndiyaneliseka ngento endiyenzayo. Hayi, kukho imisebenzi eninzi engayidlala nayo ngenxa yobudala andiyi kudlala. Namhlanje ndivuyiswa kukuba akuyiyo yonke indima inomdla. Kwiminyaka eyi-15 edlulileyo, ndandingenayo imibuzo malunga nefilosofi yangaphakathi yesithombe sam esiteji. Ndacinga kwaye ndayifumana inxaxheba kwimeko: kukuthakazelisa ukuba ndiyidlale okanye ayinomdla. Ngoku ndiyabona ukuba impembelelo yomabonwakude, umshicileli engqondweni kunye nokuqonda kwabantu, ngokungafani ne-cinema kunye nemidlalo. Xa ndivakalelwa yimpembelelo yento endiyibonayo okanye ndiyifunayo, ndandiziva ndijongene nento endiyithethayo kwaye ndixelele abaphulaphuli malunga nale nto okanye indima. Andifuni ukudlala iindima ezilungileyo kuphela, kodwa kubalulekile kum ukuba akukho propaganda yobubi kumbono oqhelekileyo wembali apho umlingani owenzayo. Ngaphambili, ezinjalo iingxaki azizange zandivuyisa, kwaye kungekudala ndikwazi ukungazibandakanyeki ukuba yintoni imiphumo yokuziphatha neyokuziphatha eya kuvelisa ifilimu okanye ukusebenza ngokuthatha inxaxheba. Ngeendlela ezininzi, olu tshintsho lwaye lwachaphazelwa kukuba ndiza kukholo, kuThixo.
- Abadlali abaninzi bakhononda ukuba ukholo luvimba ubuchule babo, lubeka ukuvalwa kwangaphakathi, luye lwawuchukumisa?
- Ewe, yathintela, umzekelo, kumdlalo othi "Umama kunye ne-Admiral", kukho ibinzana apho u-Lady Hamilton eqalekisa iSonto. Ndivuma imvume yokuthatha inxaxheba kulo mveliso, ndafuna ukuba isuswe. Nangona, njengomdlali weqhinga, ndaqonda ukuba eli binzana liyadingeka ngentsingiselo, kwaye andiyi kuthetha ngenxa yam, nangona kunjalo, andinakuyibiza.
Kodwa kuphosakeleyo ukucinga ukuba inkolelo kuThixo ibopha kwaye ibeka umda wokwakha ubuchule, inika amathuba amakhulu kakhulu. UThixo uluthando. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba enkulu kunazo zonke ezisehlabathini uluthando. Nguwo umvakalelo owenza ukuba uphile, uvuselela phambili, wenze into, uvelise kakuhle, ulethe uvuyo. Le nto iyimfuneko yokuphila.
Ukuba sihlalutya yonke into esiyibonayo kwaye siyifunda namhlanje, kukho amabali ambalwa malunga neemvakalelo zangempela. Yonke into iyincinci, ixutywe kunye nomnqweno kunye nomnqweno wokwenza imali ngeyiphi na indlela. Amaphephandaba amaninzi adumisa ubuqili bamandla, imali kunye nokunyaniseka ukususela ekuseni kuze kube sebusuku, kwaye umntu uyindoda yokwamkela, kwaye xa ehlala ebona ukuba oku kwenzekayo, ngoko ngenye indlela uqala ukucinga ukuba ayikho enye indlela. Kwaye ku soyika. Ndiyayibulela into eyabangela ukuba wandinike ithuba lokuba ndingayiva nje ngothando, kodwa ukuba ndixelele ngaye kwinqanaba.
- Ulungile - abantu banamhlanje ngexesha liyakuthonyelwa ngamajelo, abasiphatha ngeenkqubo eziphantsi kweeklasi ngokusekelwe ekuhlaleni nasekuxoxeni ngobomi bomnye umntu. Njengomntu othandwayo, uhlala ujongene ne "nondescript iso", ngaba unayo iresiphi yendlela yokukhusela i-psyche yakho kunye nenkqubo yeentlanzi kwi-intrusion engabonakaliyo kwimidiya yakho?
- Hayi, ngoku kwilizwe lethu kukho ixesha elinjalo xa umntu osisinyabi nangongathembeki angabhala nayiphi na into embi aze ayishicilele, akukho nkcazelo ihlolwe ukuthembeka. KwiNtshona, iindlela ezisebenzayo ziye zadalwa ukukhusela isidima kunye nesithunzi sabemi, ubuncinane inkundla efanayo. E-Rashiya, ayikho indlela yokuthintela ezo nkcukacha, nangona kunjalo sinenkundla inkundla, kodwa akunakwenzeka ukuba uzuze kuwo, kwaye ngokubaluleke kakhulu, ukuba ujezise ngokunyanisekileyo abanyundeli. Sonke siyazi kakuhle ukuba iphephandaba lizivumela ukushicilela into ethile ngomntu odumileyo, ithetha ukuba inomlinganiselo othile ekuqikelelweni kwayo ukwenzela ukuqesha abagwebi bezinga eliphezulu xa kunetyala lokuphumeza le nkundla okanye ukunciphisa inani lembuyekezo. Nangona kungekho mithetho kweli lizwe lethu elijezisa ngokugqithiseleyo kunye nokuhlasela okungabonakaliyo kwangasese, sinokuthukuthela kwaye simemeza, kodwa akukho miphumo efanelekileyo. Ndizama ukungayigcinanga umkhondo we-muck ukuba babhala ngam.
"Kodwa kukho abantu abambalwa apho ukuqokelela inkohliso kukuthetha ubomi!"
- Ndibavalelwa ngabantu abanjalo. Kodwa xa ezi papasho kunye nemiboniso ye-TV zipapashwa, kuthetha ukuba zifuna. Ngako oko, ndiyakholwa ukuba kuyimfuneko ukuqala ukulwa nento enjalo kwintsapho. Kuphela intsapho inokufundisa nokukhokela umntu kule ndlela okanye kuloo ndlela. Emva koko, kwihlabathi elikujikelezayo kukho izinto ezininzi ezithakazelisayo. Kwinkonzo yokusasazwa phantse kuzo zonke iziteshi eziphambili, kukho ezininzi ezithengayo kunye nophuhliso lweengqondo. Xa ubukele inkqubo "Ucocekile kwaye ukhaliphile" Ndivuyiswa kukuba sinabantwana abanomdla, abafunde kakuhle nabangenangqondo. Ngoko ke, yinto enye - ukufundisa ngokufanelekileyo, ukuze umntu ahlalise umzimela kuzo zonke iintlobo ze "yellowness", kwaye emphefumlweni wakhe unomnqweno wokubheka ukukhushulwa okunengqiqo kokusasazeka komntu, funda incwadi enzulu. Wonke umntu uyasindiswa, njengoko akunako.
- Ngoku kukho ingxoxo enkulu malunga nendlela yokufundisa kakuhle abantwana. Ndiyabulela unina, ufumene ukukhuliswa kakuhle kunye nemfundo, wakhulela umntu onyanisekileyo nozukileyo, njani, ngoluvo lwakho, ngaba le mpawu iyakubonwa ngoku kwaye ifuna?
- Ulungile, ngenxa yam nomama, ndakhuliswe kakuhle. Umama ungumntu ococekileyo kwaye ohloniphekileyo. Ngoku sele uneminyaka engaphezu kwama-60 ubudala kwaye engazange abe khona kwaye kusekho abantu ababi. Uqwalasela konke okulungileyo kwaye ulungelelanise nawuphi na ububi. Uqwalasela nayiphi na imeko engafanelekanga kwimeko yokuba wayengafanelekanga, ukholelwa kubantu ngokungapheliyo, nangona ayenakho ubomi obulula. Ngaloo ndlela, umama wangikhupha kwihlabathi elijikelezile. Ngoko ke, xa ndandineminyaka eli-17 ndashiya iphiko lomama ukusuka edorobheni elincinane laseDubna ukuya kwisixeko esikhulu saseKiev, apho yonke into yajika yahluke ngokupheleleyo, kwafuneka ndijamelane neengxaki ezininzi.
Ngenxa yam siseko, ndingazi kwaye ndingaqondi indlela endingene ngayo ebomini. Kwafuneka ndifumane ezininzi ezinokuthi "zibethe entloko." Ngelo xesha, ndathi kum mama ngokuphindaphindiweyo: "Kutheni undikhuphe kakuhle kwaye ndiyenza ntoni nale ndlela?" Kakade ke, ndiphosakele. Kodwa kwakungenzima kakhulu ukuba ndivumelane nehlabathi elijikelezile, kwaye ndihlala ndibuhlungu ukunyamezela ubuqhetseba, ubuxoki, ukunganyaniseki, ukunyuka kwemali.
Andikwazi ukufumana impendulo kumbuzo wendlela yokukhulisa abantwana ngokufanelekileyo? Enyanisweni, namhlanje kunzima kakhulu kumntu, wakhutshwa ngokuhambelana nemithetho kaThixo, ukuba abe yindawo ekhuselekileyo ejikelezile. Ungayifumana njani loo nto ukuze ukhulise umntwana umntu onyanisekileyo nohloniphekileyo kwaye ngexesha elifanayo ukulungelelanisa ubomi obusondeleyo? Nangona mna le ngxaki ayilunganga. Kodwa njengokholo, ndiyathemba ngoncedo lukaThixo ukufumana impendulo yalo mbuzo!
- Ziziphi iimfuno zakho zokubhala?
- Ndiyifunde uninzi lweencwadi zanamhlanje, kodwa andiyikufumana into enomdla kuyo. Kwiincwadi zanamhlanje, kwimbono yam, kunzima ukudibanisa izinto ezinzulu, izinto zehlabathi kunye nolwimi lwangoku. Ngenxa yokuba ulwimi lwangoku lube lukhulu kakhulu. Ndikhetha ukufunda oko kwenza ukuba ndicinge, kunceda ndiqonde kwaye ndiqonde into ethile kunye nehlabathi elijikelezile. Ndiyathanda ukufunda iincwadi zefilosofi. Njengokholo, ndihlala ndiphendukela kwiindaba ezilungileyo. Ndingathanda ukuthatha eli thuba ukuba ndibulele abadali bee-Orthodox Book portal, ngenxa yokuba mna, njengabantu abaninzi abathetha isiRashiya, banethuba lokufunda nje ngeengcamango zeencwadi zama-Orthodox, kodwa ukuba ndijwayelene neendaba ukuba ezinye iindaba azikhankanyi. Lo msebenzi obalulekileyo kakhulu.
- Usebenze kwimisebenzi yombhalo iminyaka emininzi, ngokwemibhalo yakho, ifilimu enomdla kakhulu kwaye emnandi "Xa ungalindelanga konke" yenziwe, sitshele malunga noko usibhalayo ngoku?
- Andiyena umbhali onobungcali, nangona namhlanje uthathwa njengengcali ukuba angabhala. Ngoku babhalela wonke umntu ongeyendoda enobuqili, okwenza ndibuhlungu kakhulu. Ndiyakholwa ukuba igama elihle, elifundileyo kufuneka lifunde. Abantu baninzi banikwa ukusuka phezulu.
Ibali "Xa ungalindelanga nonke" ndazibhalela mna, kunokuba kube yindlela yokwenza iinjongo zam, ukugqiba izigqibo. Kwaye andizange ndikulindele kuyo yonke into into endiyibhaleyo iya kuguqulwa ibe yi-movie. Emva koko ndalubonisa eli bali kuValery Todorovsky, kwaye wacetyiswa ukuba: "Masizame ukuqeda oku kwaye senze umfanekiso." Ndenethamsanqa, nangona ndingazi ukuba ukubhala iskripthi yinkqubo enzima kakhulu. Ngokwalo mbhalo, ifilimu yafotshwa, i-premiere yayo eyayibanjwe kwelinye leendlela eziphambili zethelevishini ngexesha eliphambili. Kukho ukulinganiswa okuphakamileyo, ukuphononongwa okulungileyo, umfanekiso owamkelwa ngenyameko ngumbonisi, xa ndanduluka ngelizwe ngeempawu zokuqala.
Ndimele ndivume ukuba kum kuqala ukuboniswa kwefilimu kwakuyinkqubo ecinezelekileyo, ndaziva ukuba kunzima kangakanani ukubhala umbhali, kuba xa ubona umkhiqizo ogqityiweyo, uyaqonda ukuba ndabhalela ezimbalwa ngeyona nto, kwaye ngokungafaniyo ndicinga ngayo yonke into kum, kwaye izibhalo zakho zibizwa kungekhona njengoko ufuna ukuba. Lo kwakuyindoda yam yokuqala kwaye ukuba kube ngumhla wokuphela kwamathuba okubhaliweyo kwincwadi, efikelelwe kwisigqibo sayo esengqiqweni.
Ndinemiqondo emininzi, imifanekiso emfutshane, amabali amafutshane, kodwa andibhale into ebalulekileyo kwaye ingabonakali. Inyaniso kukuba iminyaka embalwa edluleyo ndabhala inveli, ndaze ndayibonisa kwindlu ethile yokushicilela, apho bandixelele ukuba akuyiyo ingcali yabo. Andizange ndihambe naphi na enye, kwaye ngoku i-text text is disappeared. Ngoko ke, ndiza kuthatha ipeni kuphela ukuba ndiyazi ukuba umsebenzi wam uya kuba mfuneko kumntu-baya kufuna ukuprinta okanye ukudubula ifilimu kuwo. Andiqinisekanga ukuba ndiya kuwulawula lo msebenzi: ukuba ndinomnqweno oqinileyo okanye inkuthazo ethile kwimisebenzi ethile, ndiyinyamezela kuyo kwaye ndiyifake kwimpumelelo.
- Ngaba unamava ekudaleni iziganeko, kodwa ungazami ukuzame kwintsimi yolawulo?
- Hayi, andizange ndizame, kodwa namhlanje ndivuthiwe ngokupheleleyo ukwenza iprojekthi yendawo yamathala. Ndinomdla kakhulu, ndicinga, imbono yokugxotha ukusebenza. Kuhle ukuba ibali, ngakwesinye icala, lilula kwaye liqondakala ngesalathisi esonteleyo, kwaye ngakolunye uhlangothi, ifilosofi enzulu kunye nokuvakalisa okuhle. Ukongeza, ndiqinisekile ukuba le projekthi ingaba yoshishino. Kwimizekelo yomdlalo "Umama ne-Admiral" Ndandiqinisekile ukuba umbukeli wethu ukhathele ukuzonwabisa ngokuziqhelanisa kwaye ulungele umdlalo omkhulu. Kodwa ngoxa ephathwa ngokukhanya, ama-comedies angenangqondo. Ndiyathemba ukuba ngoncedo lukaThixo ndiya kufumana abantu abanomdla kwaye ndiza kukwazi ukuqonda iingcinga zam.